Oskar Edin Indergaard.
The Rapture PDF files Norwegian
. Contends
The 70 yaerweeks for
Rapture in the middle of the yaerweek=(yaerweek.)= seven
years
Rapture after the tribulation.
Revelation 4 and the Rapture:
Is it Really Here?
The Rapture Debunked
in 3 Questions | What God Teaches About His Protection and the Tribulation
Is the Islamic Messiah the Antichrist? with
@JoelRichardson
Did John Darby invent
the Rapture in 1830?
The Blessed Hope or
the Blasted Hope? – Lee Brainard
CONNECT Round Table -
Why the Rapture Matters
Bill & Gloria
Gaither - What a Meeting in the Air
Rapture
before the tribulation .
In Heaven
Wayne Fowler Dies Talks With
Jesus And Tells Us About The Rapture
Is There a Rapture
Rescue Cult? | Jan Markell, Mark Henry and Mondo Gonzales
Mike Golay: The
Rapture According to the Early Church
The Pretrib Rapture Debate | Lee
Brainard | Repost
Irenaeus — Ground Zero
for the Rapture Controversy in the Early Church
Ancient
Pre-Tribulation Rapture and Dispensational Teachings Before Darby
Ancient Pretrib
Rapture Proofs | Lee Brainard
Falling Away or
Departure | Lee Brainard
Rapture Warning ---
Except the Apostasy Come First
The Book that Almost Made it into
the Bible
Amir Tsarfati: Removed
Before Wrath
Amir Tsarfati:The
Great Separation
Amir Tsarfati: The
Parable of the Ten Virgins
Amir Tsarfati: How
Close Are We to the Rapture?
Amir Tsarfati: Where
is the Promise of His Coming?
Amir Tsarfati: The
Second Coming of Jesus
Antichrist Unleashed Grace to you
Rapture and
Resurrection Grace to You
The Final Generation
of the Future Judgment (Luke 21:29-33)
Is there A Rapture
Gap? | Mondo Gonzales, L.A. Marzulli, Billy Crone and Bill Salus
THE RAPTURE vs. THE
PRE-WRATH VIEW DTBM
Prophecy Brief: Belief
in the rapture of the church
In addition I
will mention some words in the scripture that confirm the pre tribulation. Standpoint. First God
says to John about the community in
That we shall not go in
to the tribulation period-- Because thou hast
kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of
temptation, which shall come upon all the
world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.(
If they will reject or acknowledge Jesus) Here is it spoken directly that the
Christian community shall be deliver out from the tribulation which shall come. --In the Norwegian translation of 1930 the Greek preposition "ek" which manes both from
,out from and out off .is translated
correctly. In the new Bible translation of 1978 contrary translated "ek"whit , preserve;thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all
the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Here we have an example that the Bible translators is
translate the text in a accordance whit their own Bible understanding, they
means that the Christian community shall go through; the tribulation.In REV
7-14 they have contrary translated the preposition(came out)correctly(Greek-ek
tes)Revelation 7:1And I said unto him, Sir,
thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great
tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of
the Lamb.I will refer to O K Indergaard
brochure,.When shall the Christian community bee taken away(rapture) page;
4.the first place in the scripture is Rev 3-10.We have some disagreement of the meaning of the greek
prepossession "ek" whict mean ,from ,out off,out from.I will refer to the
Authorized Version.
American Standard
Version, Revised Standard Version, Douay Version as Vulgata translated "
ek" from the same place whit "From"(Latin) "ab hora tentationis"from the hour of
temptation, In older Norwegian translation is "ek" translated
. Because
thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will hold(keep) you out from the
hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them
that dwell upon the earth.The Christian Community have the promise from the lord himself that he
will free us out from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the
world,We can not translate the proposition"ek"whit preserve;thee.The
Christian Community can not be free and preserve and go through the tribulation
at the same time .In this connection many is understanding the tribulation as
the trial the Christians are going through in their lifetime(in their life)This
is not correct ,because its speaking about a time of a special hard
tribulation. I will take the time to quote from the study Bible, book nr 4
page;796 and what it says about this issue.Because of its faithfulness the
community received the promise to be preserved.The trail in the tribulation its
speaks about is of a special character.It shall go over the hole world .The
wrath of God shall be over mannkind.The intention; whit the tribulation,is to
test mankind ,the unbelievers, and force them to take position for or against
Jesus Christ.In contrast to the believers who have taken the step in fait in
Christ before ,and are at home whit their Lord in heaven .And they will present
themselves before the Bema) Corinthians-2 5:10 For
we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may
receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath done,
whether [it be] good or bad (judgment
seat of Christ (Bema) has noting to do whit condemnation it has to do whit o'er
faithfulness to o'er lord Jesus Christ) ( by Lambert Dolphin) judgement seat of Christ
Amir Tsarfati: The Bema Seat of
Christ
( This is in line whit the following words.Romans
5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from
wrath through him Thessalonians-1 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath,
but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Thessalonians-1
5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together
with him.
The Christian community
shall be saved from wrath, it means that they shall not go in to the
tribulation period Rev chapter 6 can we see that the days of wrath has arrived.
This is in according to what we just have spoken about Revelation 6:15 And the
kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief
captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid
themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and
hide us from the face of him that sited on the throne, and from the wrath of
the Lamb: Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall
be able to stand?
For the
second after John have written the letters to the seven communities in
Revelation who also represent the Christian community generally ,what concern
the contends of the letters. He saw a door in haven been opened by God ,he was
asked to ascend in to heaven ,to view from heaven what shod happen in the
tribulation period .Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door
[was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a
trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will
show these things which must be hereafter. At the same way as John was
taken in to heaven and view the different event in the tribulation from haven,
the Christen community will do the same in safety in heaven whit the Lord. The
Christen community is no longer present on the eart.After the 3 chapter in Rev
is the word community is not used more in the text ,but appears in the last
chapter of (Rev 22-16)What concern the heavenly phase, do we get to new
appellation , the 24 oldest ”and they who lives in heaven 13-6.What concern the
earthly phase ,then we get a description of the martyrs 6-9-11and the 144000
sealed of Israel 12 tribes(7-3.8) a great multitude 7-9.17
After
this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all
nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and
before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands
Revelation 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which
sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. ;The two witness 11-3.1 2the woman 12-5.16was
wrath. on the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which
keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.12-17And
the saints 13-7.This shows that we have a to separation of the believers They
who are in heaven, and they who are going to live in the tribulation period
This is both Jews and Gentiles.
Chapter 4 and 5describe
the situation in heaven after the Christen community
is taken away and the(installing) coronation of Jesus as
King. We have to take in notice that Rev both describes the situation in heaven and the situation
on earth from chapter 6-19 in tribulasjonperiod What concern the description of
saved people on earth in that time, they are either Jews or Gentiles. As we
before have mention, the Antichrist is scoffing God and they who are living in
heaven. This shod conclude that the Christian community is no longer at present
on earth. Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in
blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that
dwell in heaven.
Her we are told that the house of God are them that
dwell in heaven. And this proves that the Christian community shall be
in heaven in the tribulation period. BECAUSE THE
CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY IS THE HOUSE OF GOD AND THE TEMPLE OF GOD
Corinthians-1
3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God
dwelleth in you?Corinthians-1
Peter-1 2:5
Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood,
to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
For the third do we see
of the situations picture of Rev ,in heaven something has been change from the description
we had before. There is something new in heaven ,a new group of people has
arrived there, which has never been there before. And they are the 24 oldest.
Revelation
4:4 And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats
I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on
their heads crowns of gold.
Revelation
4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne,
and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the
throne, saying,
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:
for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were
created.
Revelation
5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four [and] twenty
elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden
vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the
book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall
reign on the earth.
The 24 oldest is the represent
off to groups of saved people, The old testament believers who was resurrected
when Jesus die on the cross Matt 27,50-57 and the new testament community, And
this shows that the resurrection has happen for the new testament community,
and they have been changed, received their new body (resurrection body) ,at the
beginning of the tribulations period ,which will come over the hole world and
last in 7 years. The Christian Community is ready to follow Jesus where ever he
goes. But the Christian Community will stay in rest in heaven for 7 years,
where they will praise and worship God and o,er Lord Jesus Christ. The new
Testament community will be in safety from the nightmare who will accrue on
earth. Besides it is written of this group of people, that they has been taken
out of every tribe tongue people and nation. This is the main proof what
concern the Christian community because it’s been taken out of all the people
of the world This is in coordination what is written in Acts 15,14
Acts 15:14
Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out
of them a people for his name.
K M Smidt
says following about the 24 oldest in his book Bible studies over the book of
Revelation”In circle around the throne John saw 24 other thrones and on them 24
oldest in white clothes and whit golden triumphant wreath on their heads. Her
has been many speculation over who those 24 oldest?.Are they? heavenly angels,
or are they saved holy ones John look at?. Many interpreters, sees the 24
oldest as representatives of the saved community from the old pact and 12 from
the new pact incardinates to the 12 patriarchs Tribes and the 12 apostels.The
number cannot been taken literal concern the 24 persons ,but as a symbol number
". Comprehensive all the saved holy’s .OK Indergaard says following about
the 24 oldest in his brochure. When shall the community be ruptured
page;24-25.The situations picture before the 70 yaerweek for Israel Rev 4 and 5
Do we find also the glorified new testament community Greek(ekklesia) Already in Hebrew
12,12-23 which shows the heavenly situations picture in the beginning of the
new testamentary time. Do we find a community of glorified people in heaven
,namely the general assembly Greek( panegyris)And the community of the first born, Greek (ekk ' lesia prototokon) who indubitable is the
many old testament holy ones who rose from the dead whit Jesus ,Matthew
27,52-53 together whit Enoch and Elijah who had become glorified whiteout dead
and Moses who God rose from the dead I will also mention the perfect. justified
spirits who not has receive their glorified- body
It’s in the New
Testament tree Greek synonym for holy communities
(1) Synagogue ,which
specially concern the Jewish community
(2) Ekklesia, who
concern the new testament community
(3)Panegyris who just
exist ones in the scripture namely in Hebrew 12, 23 which means the general assembly ,Hebrews 12:23 To
the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
But in the situation
picture in heaven (Revelation 4 and 5) who describes the situation in heaven
after the rapture but before the the 70 yaerweek
IS BOTH THE TO GLORIFIED COMMUNITIES NAMELY THE OLD TESTAMENT PANEGYRIS
AND THE
NEWTESTAMENT EKKLESIA REPRESENTED BY THE 24 OLDEST WHO IS THE MEMBERS OF THE
HEAVENLY COUNCIL BOARD Esaias 3,14,24,23,where the 12 tribes of Israel Rev 7,4-8, 12, 1 and the
12 apostles of Jesus is united together the Old pact community and the New pact
community together sings the new song about the Lamb Revelation
5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to
open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy
blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Describing the 24 Elders | Josh Peck and Mondo
Gonzales
Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall
reign on the earth.
We see them
take part in heaven under the presence of Jesus ( parousia Greek) In
Christian doctrine, eschatology has traditionally included the second advent of
Christ, or Parousia, the resurrection
of the dead,the last judgment, the immortality of the soul, concepts of heaven
" Microsoft(R) Encarta
Where the justify
Judgment of God is fallen over a apostate humanity will also quoted from the study Bible, and what it tells us about the
24 oldest book nr 4 ,796: The supporter relate too this interpretation see the
24 oldest as representatives for the gathered community. The Oldest is a
expression used both in the old and the new testament as the leaders of the
community. The double 12 remained us about Israelis 12 patriarchs and the 12
apostles.Sverre Kornmo says following in his book ,The End Time in the light of
the prophesy page;41.The relationship between Christ and the community is
clearly in Rev chapter 4 -5 John was then ascend into heaven to look into the
future from the heavenly world. He sees a throne in heaven
Revelation
4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit; and, behold, a throne was set in
heaven, and [one] sat on the throne."
Revelation
4:4 And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats
I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on
their heads crowns of gold. ----and 5-8,10
5Revelation 5:8 Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou
art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast
slain, and hast redeemed us to God
The community (or) the
bride is no longer mention later in Rev in chapter 3 from this point, they are
only too been seen in heaven. The twenty four oldest who represent a grate crowd.
from every nation; tongue; people have to be the Christian community who is
been taken away before the seal is opened ---and
hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and
people, and nation;
Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall
reign on the earth.
Nobody gets a crown or
sitting on thrones before the resurrection and therefore there has been a
resurrection before the seals is opened and the judgement scene is going to be
uncovered =
(Revelation = Latin =the Apocalypse)
Sverre Kornmo
I will also quote from
Helset Dyrset book (The Great Secret) page;94-96.In chapter 4and 5 of Rev.And
what he says about the 24 oldest .He says ,In this Community a interpretation
of the 24 oldest as represents of high ranking angels, is not in accordance
what the scripture says about Angeles newer hear that the angels is singing
apart from Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang
together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Gods mighty act in the Creation the universe overwhelming
beauty and the fine harmony who the spirit world was witness to recalled this
song of praice.But when sin entered and disturbed the harmony in Gods glories
creation, the Angel song become silent. Whit grate events as the born of
Christ....Christ Resurrection ....and when the Saints is arrived in heaven do
we hear about the rejoice of the Angels. But just from the place in Job do we
read that the Angels sings. Its only the saved sinners who can sing the song of redemption.
Mp3 -7,9
MB
Midi Days Of Elijah
Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast
slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and
tongue, and people, and nation;
There is no place in the
scripture that Angels is been crowned But about the
24 oldest we read _Revelation 4:4 And round
about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four
and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their
heads crowns of gold.
If we hold that god old rule
that scripture explains scripture, will we have no difficulty to identified
these first partition of the holy ones who its written about in Rev last part(
from chapter 4).In the 23 -24 chapter of chronicles can we read when the
Levitt’s(priests) shod meet in the sanctuary (temple) . David divided them in
24 shifts whit a head, chief. of each shift the Levitt’s cud not meet at the
same time because they counted nearer forty thousand (40000) .But in these 24
head, chiefs was the hole assembly ,represented before the sight of. the Lord.
Nearly just the same way in heaven when the 24 oldest who John viewed in
heavenly glory. They represent the hole congregation the hole blood redeemed
congregation
The new! who had happen
in heaven is that we get informasjon about the 24 oldest ,is in heaven, and the
rapture of the Christian community has been taken place. If we compare Rev of
John 4, 4 4 , 9-11 and 5, 8-10 whit Hebrew 12,22-24 who gives us a overview;
over they who are in heaven, before the new testament rapture ,do we see that
the Christian community or the 24 oldest is missing in the last mention
overview
Hebrews
12:22 But ye (The Christian Community) are come unto mount Sion,(in heaven) and unto the city of
the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of
angels,
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly(panegyris) and church of the
firstborn,(ekklesia prototokon) which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of
all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood
of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.
and church
of the firstborn,(ekklesia prototokon)These to congregations is the old testament
believers who rose in connection whit the dead and resurrection of Jesus Christ
Matthew 27,52-53 also Enoch Elijah and Moses which are written in heaven and to
God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,(the souls of all the
dead believers both from old testament time and the new testament who have not
received their resurrection body yet) And to Jesus the mediator of the
new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than
[that of] Abel.
As follows in Hebrew
12,22-24 is three these inhabitants in heaven
1 innumerable company of angels(,the thousands of angels Norwegian Translation)
2 the general assembly and church of the firstborn, this is a
part of the old testament believers who received their resurrection body in
connection whit Jesu death and resurrection .They rose bodily whit Jesus
resurrection and was whit Jesus to heaven after 40 days whit his ascend to
heaven. They rose as a first fruit for God ,as a prove that God accept what Jesus did for all humans namely that the sin
is atonement and the debt is paid
About the
general assembly and church of the firstborn it is written in Matthew 27,50-53
Matthew
27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Matthew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the
top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;Matthew 27:52
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into
the holy city, and appeared unto many.
In this connection I
will quote the study Bible book nr 1 page 565 The graves was opened when Jesus
died ,but it don't look like that they was alive ,before after Jesus was
resurrected. He was the first fruit 1 Corinthians 15,23.How it went whit them
later do we not know .The Bible is silent about this. It is wary clear that
they was not resurrected to live on eart.They was either ruptured after they
had showed themselves ,or together whit Jesus 40 days later. These people is the
same as the general assembly and church of the
firstborn, These people is a first fruit for God ,off the old testamentary
believers. What concern the other old testament believers they will not be resurrected
before after the tribulation is past ,this will happens when Jesus is coming
back to earth, and they will also go into the heavenly face of the millennium
Kingdom(the kingdom of Jesus Messiah the 1000 years)
3) God is there
4) Jesus is there
5) the spirits of just men made perfect,
There we have the believers
both from the old Testament--and the new Testamentary time
EVERYBODY
WHO BELIEVES IN JESUS WILL GO TO HEAVEN WHEN THEY DIE ... AND THERE THEY ARE WAITING FOR
THEIR RESURRECTION BODY .THIS IS COMMEND FOR ALL, BOTH THE BELIEVERS IN THE OLD
PACT AND, THEY IN THE NEW PACT
WHEN JESUS ASCEND IN TO
HEAVEN HE TOOK WHIT HIM ALL THE SAVED SOULS INTO HEAVEN HE TOOK WHIT HIM THE
PARADISE SIDE OF THE KINGDOM OF DEATH, AND LED THE BELIEVERS WHIT HIM TO HEAVEN
Therefore says the
scripture
Ephesians 4:8
Wherefore he saith, (Jesus)When he ascended up on high, he
led captivity captive,(every believer) and gave gifts unto men.
Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended
first into the lower parts of the earth?(the kingdom of the death )
Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above
all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
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Peter-1
3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that
he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the
Spirit:
Peter-1
3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Peter-1 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few,
that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Peter-1 3:21 The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us
(not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good
conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Peter-1
3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and
authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
It is interesting to
remark that the believers in the old testamentary time also knew, that God shod
take them to heaven ,when the time comes .This happen when Jesus aced into
heaven
Psalm 68:18
Thou (
Jesus)hast ascended on high,(In Heaven) thou hast led captivity captive:(The saved souls) thou hast received
gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell
[among them].
Psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive
me. Selah.
Psalm 73:23
Nevertheless I [am] continually with thee: thou hast holden [me] by my right
hand.
Psalm 73:24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me [to]
glory.
Psalm 73:25 Whom have I in heaven [but thee]? and [there is] none upon earth
[that] I desire beside thee.
This shall
prove that the 24 oldest is the representatives of the Christian Community and
this is the main proof that the Christian Community will be rapture before the
tribulations period ,who begins whit chapter 6 of Rev This crowd of people is
of every tribe tongue and people, and
nation this congregation find itself in heaven;
.In addition they have got Crones of gold on their heads, and this is an
expression that they have stood before the the Glories throne of Jesus in
heaven ,and received their grace reword and got their royal dignity of Jesus
and together whit Jesus .They are ready to go in the mission of Kings and
Priests one earth Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings
and priests: and we shall reign on the earth
What concern
this Bible verse we have to be aver of its partly translated wrong in our Bible
( I will make the reader aver of that Oskar Idin Indergaarn is referring
to the Norwegian translation, PARTICULAR this lines is difficult to translate
correctly) This is naturally done whit purpose to wakening the period of the
millennium kingdom, and the Christians Communities role in this period I will
quoted from the main text(Greek) and make the readers aver of its different variation
,I will set the text in parenthesis so the reader can see the error. I will use
the study bible, word from word translation. Book nr 4 paged 784-785 Revelation
5:10 And
hast made (us)( them) unto our God (kings)(a Kingdom) and priests: and( we shall reign)(we rules) on the earth Here it’s clear of the
text THAT
BOTH THE CHRISTIAN AND THE OLD TESTAMENT BELIEVERS WHO SHALL BE KINGS AND
PRIESTS IN THE MILLENNIUM KINGDOM
There must be and end
off that the theologians is translating the Bible in according to their own
Bible understanding and theology system Whit doing so they are disturbing the
word of God and they can easily seduce the Christian Community about the plan
of God about the millennium kingdom ,Christian Community, and the Jews in that
Period.
We know that
Antichrist cannot come. Before the Christian Community is rapture to God .It is the power of
the Holy Spirit in the Christian Community who holds back.
Revelation
6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were
the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had
a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to
conquer.
What concern this text
there is tree interpretation who this rider me be
1( It is the victory of
the Gospel in the tribulasjonsperiod at 7 years
2(It is a description of
the coming of Jesus to Armageddon
3(It is a description of
the coming of Antichrist and victory on the political, and wars strategy in the
first 3,5 years of the tribulations period after 3,5 years he will achieve
world dominion
This correspond whit
that Satan is been thrown out of the heavenly and down to earth in the middle
of the year week(3.5years).Satan will then give all his power of the World to
Antichrist
Revelation
13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as
[the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave
him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Luke 4:6
And the devil said unto him,(Jesus) All this power will I give thee,
and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will
I give it.
I consider the third
interpretation as correct, I will from the Bible show that this is the right
interpretation will compare the last to interpretations, I look away from the
first one, who I consider have noting .The meaning of two and tree , the only
thing we can compare whit, is the white horse .The opinion of some, is the
horse Jesus is sitting on when he is coming to Armageddon
Revelation
19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon
him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make
war.
When Antichrist is
coming he is sitting on a white horse, which means that he is imitating Jesus
Christ. He want the world to see specially the Jews that he is the Messiah, if
he don't says it directly but he will try in the longest ,to hide his identity
as the Satan’s Antichrist
John 5:43 I
am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in
his own name, him ye will receive.
What concerns the weapon
he wears, he has a bow, "but the weapon Jesus have is a sharp sword who is
the same as the word of God
Revelation
19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite
the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the
winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
We know who is shunting burning
arrows from the bow, it is the weapon of Satan and it’s naturally that
Antichrist has the same weapon.
Ephesians
6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to
quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
We also see that Antichrist
is been given one Crone when he comes. That Crone is given to him by Satan to
be his especially representative in the Tribulation period. Jesus on the
contrary has many Crowns when he comes
Revelation
19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns;
and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
To end the proof about
the rider of Rev 6, 2 cannot be Jesus; we can look at the difference of the
horseman who follows Antichrist and them who follows Jesus. After Antichrist
follows tree horseman
Revelation
6:4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to
him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill
one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.Revelation 6:5 And when
he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I
beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in
his hand.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A
measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and
[see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Revelation 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the
fourth beast say, Come and see.
Revelation
6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was
Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the
fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death,
and with the beasts of the earth.
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About the riders who
follows Jesus there is written.
Revelation
19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
This shall prove that
the two raiders (Horseman) and the two different event is not identical the first rider
Antichrist is coming over seven years earlier before the other raider, who is
Jesus
The Antichrist cannot be
relived before what holds back is taken out the way or sat aside, it’s the holy
spirit who holds back in the Christian Community
6 And now
ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
Thessalonians-2 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth
already work: only he who now letteth [will let],
until he be taken out of the way.Thessalonians-2 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be
revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall
destroy with the brightness of his coming:Thessalonians-2 2:9
We will quote word from
word from the main text(Greek) ,to show that
the Norwegian translation of 1930 is both
wrong and misleading .The study bible book nr 4 page 284 quote only he who holds back yet until goes out of the middle he
comes (ek mesu genetai)"vers 7
He who holds back goes
out of the middle and out in the periphery It’s not written that he shall be
extinguish or eliminated. The new Bible translation of 1978 has translated it
correctly. We will quote from different Bibles comments, who translated the
text correctly.
1) New English:
disappear, from the scene
2) Hayman: stand no
longer in the way
3)Gunnes: step aside
4) Laubach: is gone
5) Danish Bible
translation: remove (take away)
(I will make the reader aver of, the Bible expression over is directly
translated from Norwegian)
There have also been
different opinions in the history of the church ;( who withholding)( he who now letteth) .I will mention some opinion in
church; history about this.
1) Most of the ancient
church; fathers, meant it was the roman state who withholds, for the Antichrist
2) Theodoret meant, it
was the pagan service
3) J P Lange meant it
was the moral spirit in the life of the state
4)Bullinger meant, it
was the devil. who holds tight on his position in heaven and first have to be
throw out
5) Augustin said
following about this ,the Thessalonians knew about
this (" you know ",2 Thess 2,6) I don't know but I will not conceal
others opinions
6) Calvin meant it was
prediction of the Gospel and the Holy Spirit
As we can see in the
church history, that there has been different interpretation about this, But after
my opinion there can be no doubt who it cud befits the holy spirits at work in
the Christian Community. As soon as the Christian community is been rapture to
God, the Holy Spirit is not in the communities center on earth. It has no place
in the chuck of the Antichrist. It,s not in the center of its life and
prediction, It means not that the holy spirit is not at present on earth in the
tribulation period, because it is,. In the individual who comes to believing in
Jesus as the redeemer and saviour, and in communities who is braking whit the
harlot church The Bible tells us also that the Christian Community whit the
help of the Holy Spirit withholds (stand in the way) for Satan ,to realize to
the full extension of his evil plan
Matthew
16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will
build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Luke 10:17
And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are
subject unto us through thy name.
Ephesians
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high [places].
Timothy-1
I consider myself to be
finished, whit the prove, about the time point the Christian Community will be
ruptured to Jesus in the sky .And there can be no doubt , It will happens
before the last 70 years week for Israel and Jerusalem beginnes.The Christian
Community shall not go inn or through the tribulasjonsperiod. They who means
the opposite, has not taken to consideration.
1) How will they
interpret the scripture in the other way (the bible verse I have used?
2 )They have not taken
to consideration, the Prophecy of Daniel about the 70 year week Daniel 9,24-27
3) They don't divide
between the promises to the Christian community, and on the other hand, the
promises to
It’s of vital impotence,
that we read the New Testament and divide between the promises of the two
Congregations (Jews/ Gentiles) .If we don't do that we will end up in
misleading interpretation of the Bible. And that was not the meaning. The
Christians shall not stand in the problem of misunderstanding, but in the light
of knowledge and understanding about these things.
We will all meet Jesus some day as or Saviour, or as are Judge
I choose
Jesus heaven and the
What do you
choose?
People get ready - Golden Gospel
Singers
Tingvoll
11/10 1983.
Oskar Edin
Indergaard.
I will remark that the books is translated amateurly straight from Norwegian
and there is error, both in spelling and the meaning of the sentence, it,s
easily twisted whit out purpose .But I hope I have got the importance of the
subject . I hope the English readers forgive me for my bad English.
Stein A Johannessen.